S. 606–624; A. H. Fox Strangways: The Less-Known Songs of Schubert. I have begun to cut the seed pods off as soon as they develop because the plant is sprouting all around my yard – I believe it will eventually be classified as “invasive” here, as use of it is already being discouraged. I want to mention that I did have a fumigator come and do the yard. I didn’t even know this was a concern, so then I researched the California natives, most are highly invasive (yes as roadside weeds they are fine, but not great for a garden) I did find that heart leaf milkweed is a non-invasive native, it grows naturally up in the Santa Cruz mountains, but I am in that area that isn’t the beach and not up in the mountains sort of a foothill area maybe. While there are relevant issues that deserve further research, this milkweed has endured an unrelenting smear attack over the past few years. California experienced its warmest year on record and I am wondering if monarchs are now going to shift to overwintering in places like southern California? ~MaMa Monarch. For additional information, see the Global Shipping Program, This amount includes applicable customs duties, taxes, brokerage and other fees. With a bit of auction luck & elbow grease you may be able to get this one and bring it back to beautiful condition for a tiny fraction of that 13.5K fair-market blue-book.Not quite ready to sail but pretty close. Last fall I had tropical milkweed growing and had a monarch lay a lot of eggs on it. D. plexippus plexippus has not, which causes problems, mostly during the 1st instar. We don’t usually see any Monarchs until it’s time for the Methuselah generation and by then even the Swamp Milkweed is becoming tough, however, the Monarchs still prefer to oviposit on those plants over all others. We have had an unusually warm, short winter. This careful study, if replicated, should be considered as evidence that tropical milkweed has its place in the complex survival arsenal of monarch butterflies as an anti-parasite strategy. The last ones are probably strong and must need a very strong instinct to get them to mexico, that is if they are some of the ones that do. I told the ranger that I was raising milkweed in my garden, she thanked me, with a very sad look in her eyes, it is very desperate now. I have no technical expertise on Monarch’s physiology beyond a basic knowledge Last year was excellent, and during their migration south for a period of several days I had an amazing abundance of dozens of Monarchs feeding on my flowering plants. If so, that would create harm for the lifecycle. Hi Michele, up north I have noticed that the younger plants always look healthier. CA FL TX TN. Florida where I have swamp if I want to use it. Char, thank you so much for sharing your personal experience with milkweed gardening and raising monarchs. The eggs are always left on the Swamp Milkweed leaves and brought indoors into sterile containers where I can monitor their progress. Well, in late November I found some chrysalises hiding in my asters. However, it’s important to note there is currently no conclusive data telling us if/how much this is happening. However, I do raise migration generation monarchs indoors because cool nights can slow down metamorphosis. I do actually have a question, though (climbing down from my podium, here). Raise the caterpillars on live plants. Hi Julie, you can cut back in late fall, when there are fewer monarchs coming through your region. I would make a list of a few options that sound interesting and then talk to local gardeners or nurseries to see what works best for them. Photos taken last week. If I didn’t have Tropical Milkweed, I’d have NO milkweed. R ð. here is the group where you can find info about shipping chrysalides. (PS. Porn, XXX, Pussy, Sex and more! Thank you. I am not sure what migration they are talking about along the southern california coast. Not sure what everyone is talking about. And that is their choice…, Thank you for your thoughtful comments, Tony. Thank you. I would be surprised if your new plants aren’t flowering before the end of the season. This study was in Minnesota, so I’m not sure I agree with your hypothesis, but perhaps this could become an issue in southern regions of the US. The paper wasps really took out a lot of Monarch initially. They’re not staying around for the milkweed and are obviously taking other cues to start their migration. I am planning my monarch habitat for next spring. From your information and others, I believe we should start to cut back the milkweed (or bring indoors) after that “initial fall migration” so that “late in the season egg laying” would not occur on our plant? Debi. The A. tuberosa and A. incarnata have done poorly, with many plants just not surviving and the others being quite small in their first summer. Tropical Milkweed(Asclepias curassavica) is a non-native milkweed that has exploded in popularity over the past decade with both North American butterfly gardeners and the objects of their desire…monarch butterflies! Copyright © 1995-2021 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Thanks Tony G. Great Article and great feedback. I had a monarch caterpillar on it which sadly died after going into his J position. They don’t jump onto adult butterflies. I have three kinds of Milkweed, tropical, heart leaf and swamp. Hi Randy, OE would be a potential issue for your Calotropis species too, because it’s a continuous growing plant in a continuous growing region…I have not seen the ‘white’ monarchs personally, but have seen photos. I did read about cutting them to the ground every season. Thank you all for your thoughtful comments and for caring to be involved. You can position a leaf closer to where they are, but I would not move them. I love this hobby and feel that this is one activity that can make a difference in the outcome for this miracle on wings. I liked your comment about hands down the Monarch like the Tropical plants. The population here in the West coast is in such a decline and we in the Monterey Bay area are known for the Monarchs, it is intrinsic to our culture and it is in a sad state. The monarch population there didn’t exist until after the native cedar/palmetto forests were cut down by the arriving european colonists in 1609 to make room for agriculture and settlements and after two weedy non-native invasive tropical milkweeds (curassavica and physocarpa) became established on the disturbed ground: http://imageshack.com/a/img839/268/nmim.jpg By the late 1800’s monarchs were a common butterfly on the island. Any new insight into using Tropical Milkweed in Hawaii? To a breeder of Monarchs this is obvious as the larger monarchs at the end of each season do not mate even with ideal habitat full of ASCLEPIAS CURASSAVICA. If your plants were eaten to the ground, healthy new growth should emerge for the next monarchs to start their life cycle. Hi Scott, the immediate issue I see with this research is that syriaca isn’t a viable speices in late summer and fall because the leaves are too tough…it’s an excellent early milkweed though! to put it into a pot? Most native species of milkweed are spent at this late date save A incarnata. Long term, we need to alter the wide-scale spraying of Glyphosate (active ingredient in Round-up). More Tropical Milkweed Growing  Info and Resources. Hi Penny, I think other people have tried overwintering them too. I intend to cut all the milkweed back in a couple weeks gathering as many seeds as I can. FACTS- Southern Milkweed ASCLEPIAS CURASSAVICA is classified as native in at least 4 states. The two major problems … Do they have a reasonable chance of surviving? But, with the monarch population in peril, is this a good time for eradicating some of their favorite milkweed species from our garden landscapes? I mean, they’re not embedded, they’re not glued on with superglue, and they’re not kryptonite, right? Good luck with your monarchs…. It also supplies end of the year nectar for numerous other butterfly species, insects, bumble bees, solitary bees and is a pollen source for bees. Academia.edu is a platform for academics to share research papers. Or do I still need to cut them down? I have raised monarchs for over 30 years. I used to get rid of them because they were destroying my cabbage and broccoli, but they are butterflies, so now that I am trying to be a sanctuary, how can I kill them? We ask that before unsupported speculation further disrupts public opinion about milkweeed and the planting of NATIVE ASCLEPIAS CURASSAVICA that writers show real evidence, not just pose question and other’s actions. We had a real issue this year with wasps. Today monarchs continue to be present on Bermuda despite massive suburban development, decades of inbreeding and decades of being confined to very small amounts of tropical milkweed. For instance, goldenrod flowering coincides with Monarch migration. The “Crown Flower” plant is more popular for raising Monarchs here, but that plant takes more room. Hi Linda, we grow showy and stiff goldenrod (which monarchs rarely visit), 4 types of sedum, and New York Asters along with many other native plants. The caterpillars are very large and will be cocooning themselves soon. Monarchs flooded my garden the day I planted in May. I have the original plants that I planted from the nursery, and, now, I have dozens of “volunteer” plants that have sprouted on their own. In the spring I just spread the seeds around after the last frost and they grow just like wildflowers! Payment due within 24 hrs. Scientific studies often take years and years, but the Monarchs need help NOW, so until there are definitive answers to some of the questions posed it seems we should try and share our experiences so as to benefit a species so adored and loved by all. Where is the logic of introducing, both milkweeds and monarchs to Bermuda, Australia and New Zealand? I have raised monarchs since 1969. Was this because predators somehow knew they were more poisonous? Science is presently in a state of crisis due to its failure (p-values [probability values]to replicate). I know at least a hundred take flight because of Tropical milkweed. I generally cut my plants back every 2 to 3 months , generally to control aphid from spreading to adjacent milkweed plants. I will continue to post more info on both natives and non-natives so that our community understands all the options, and then can make the best decisions for their particular situation. “There is such a thing as plant diversity and offering choices, more important than any one single plant.” I agree! It’s the best variety to support early monarchs. Protect these plants until after the seed has set and spread, and until after the chrysalises have hatched into adult Monarchs. I don’t think Tropical Milkweed is the correct variety to scatter to the winds! You can always cut back tropical milkweed you bring indoors and let fresh growth emerge over winter. I saw at least a hundred caterpillars, but all seemed to become Lizard Lunch. Classical Guitar Tablature - 15 April 2021 - original home page 2900 classical guitar tabs in plain text format - more are welcome, but please play through your tabs before sending them in.If possible add left hand fingering (LHF) and show the rhythm.Use a maximum of 80 characters a line so that the tab prints out ok.Unedited tabs made directly from MIDI files are likely to be unplayable. Hi, Tony, I’m in Central Florida. I live in Santa Cruz CA. I also treat my plants with hydrogen peroxide which promotes root growth and is supposed to kill disease spores, although I’m unsure if it kills OE. Then why do the monarchs ever even bother leaving Mexico? So no it’s not bad. Tony, I am with you in your belief that it can be used by those willing to take the steps to keep it safe and clean — and contained. I saw pupas only on a pot of milkweed which I put on top of a birdbath. ANY surviving milkweed plants in those regions will have a build up of OE spores (almost ALL butterflies in your region have OE). Amazon Music Stream millions of songs: Amazon Advertising Find, attract, and engage customers: Amazon Drive Cloud storage from Amazon: Amazon Web Services I have been harassed to no end by my native plant groups to which I belong and am on the boards. Some of your readers do not come away with this basic understanding and think the plant is a cause. However, I am wondering, is it possible that I would perpetuate any OE that might be on my tropical mw on the cuttings or plants that I bring in to overwinter? Go Figure. I have many native plants & some ornamentals, yet I am tolerant of others who have a belief that is different from mine. Many milkweed types are difficult to grow especially from seed… so say many we have heard from, us included. Each fall it seeds abundantly. I only ask that we not alienate gardeners that would like to explore more natives but are hesitant due to the attitudes of purists. (If there were, any native or other flower would be just as dangerous, since an infested adult monarch could shed spores onto zinnias just as easily as onto tropical milkweed. Thank you for supporting the monarchs…. Curiously, we had also never found a garden chrysalis until this season. Hi Dan, sometimes they crawl away to molt (they shed their skin 4 other times before forming the chrysalis). I agree that “responsible diversity” is a reasonable goal in a garden setting. Evolution has devised its plan over millions of years and we are possibly interrupting it in just a few. This year I released over 300 monarchs, and my neighbor released over 100. Many are lethargic and spitting green liquid. Thanks for reading. Calling folks names, especially those who could or should be on your side, does not move things in a positive direction. However, there needs to be research to discover whether there are migratory monarchs from your region, and how many. You might try swamp milkweed if your region get’s lots of rain…it’s a popular nectar flower and host plant. 2016 Update- with more gardeners planting tropical milkweed, the overwintering population in Mexico grew 3.5 times: from 57 million monarchs…to 200 million! We don’t get snow here. Night time temps are in the 40’s. A 2021 Marlow-Hunter 31 (one foot longer than this one up that is up for auction here on Ebay) bears a list price of One Hundred Fifty Six Thousand. for several years, with much success. There are issues with growing both native and non-native milkweeds. Viridis and asperula are also supposed to be popular host plants in Texas. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. they put themselves on medication. Hi Deanne, I think tropical milkweed is a good option for smaller gardens because you need to maximize your space with long blooming, viable plants. I don’t ever have problems with first instar caterpillars, perhaps because I rinse of all my leaves or spray plants/cuttings daily. Eventually the natives were eaten back and have not recovered. Zone 9b. Later I bought a couple more tropical. On 60 acres in north Florida we have lots of native milkweed on which I have never found a Monarch. When I read the first sentence, I was bracing for another attack about how non-natives are destroying the environment and not supporting the native ecosystem. If the milkweed doesn’t make the larvae taste yucky, the deterrent is gone. Science relies on statistics but very few scientists know enough about statistics. However. The research is definitely “lite” but makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint. You could also raise them indoors and pick/refrigerate the remaining milkweed leaves and use as needed, or use stem cuttings. This past Spring was cooler and wetter, and I had fewer seedlings sprout, and an abundance of caterpillars that severely denuded the surviving plants, resulting in far fewer seeds for me to gather. The goal isn’t to be OE free, but to greatly reduce the number of spores so that your milkweed supply can support healthy butterflies. Absolutely not…but I think it’s a solution that more people are open to hearing since they’re not being told what to do and judged for it when they don’t comply. THANKS PAUL C. FOR THE INFO ALSO. I reveal what those issues are and if/how they can be dealt with. Have you ever seen the black & white version of a Monarch (minus the orange color)? Wait we have seen science like that lots of times. Others stagger their cuttings so there will always be some milkweed available in case of an emergency. “Milkweed hurting the monarchs” is just as wrong and confusing to people as using whorled milkweed as a supposed threat to horses and cattle to eradicate all milkweeds for all reasons. When should I cut back my Asclepius curravassa? The migration should be peaking in your region: Had over 30 monarch chrysalis last December here in louisiana. And as far as the cardenolide levels, could high levels also be a potential benefit because the monarchs would be more poisonous? I have not found that monarchs lay eggs too late on tropical milkweed in Minnesota. They love it! The a. Curassavica was represented to me as native. But not all of them leave. See, that is what I thought – it is a native plant in their home range. Over the years (I have lived here well over 30 years) we would go to the Sanctuary in the winter to see the immense amount of Monarchs all in clusters hanging from the eucalyptus trees. This plant loses leaves as it grows and no study has shown it to harbor OE more than any other source or surface. My survival rate is always between 95-100% and the few that didn’t make it over the past few years have all been from predation or freak accidents. That would explain more success for predators. Bring it indoors– once monarch season is over in your region (or should be) bring your pots inside so any late comers won’t be tempted to continue the season in (too) cold weather. As of now, I am unable to find native asclepsia californica seeds available, so I have planted asclepia curassavica. This year I purchased over a dozen native milkweed in 1-gallon pots to start the switch from tropical to native. Coastal Car & Truck Exterior Parts for Toyota, Coastal Car & Truck Exterior Parts for Honda. My catz love the tropical especially the flowers. So, the Monarchs seem to be noting the time of day is changing and heading out. While these issues are still being studied, some are calling for a moratorium on tropical milkweed and lesser known non-natives that could potentially pose the same threat. I’m not sure what you can do to stop them besides spreading milkweed patches around your garden so some go undetected or bring in a few to raise indoors: I have a hearty patch of Tropical Mikkweed in my yard in Houston. The tropical produced seed so I threw them in one of my beds last winter and planted the others. And, I watched wasps bite into 5th instar larva and destroy it. A Tropical Solution: Gardeners in tropical milkweed perennial regions (USDA plant hardiness zones 8-11) can cut it back to the ground a couple times each season. I just had a monarch lay eggs on my milkweed today and I’m not sure what to do. Every word you wrote was intended to insult him. Hi Laurel, March 30, 2014…still a controversial issue today. During the spring and summer, they go to all the milkweeds, because it’s all fresh growth. So Tropical is a GO. Hi Lara, tropical milkweed actually has higher cardenolides than most other milkweed species so it is more toxic. This year, however, none of my plants are blooming. I helped her by hanging up a sponge which I dipped in sugar water and refreshed often. I have 4 eggs and no monarchs in my yard for the past 4 days. I live in the Bay Area in California – I am a novice – just started raising Monarchs this year. I have a question. Just today I cut back to about 12 inches but was reluctant to cut further as I still have at least a 5 or 6 ts on my 8 or 10 plants. The “potential solutions” involve humans. “The good thing about science is that it says what it means, it doesnât try to embellish, and the moment better data is available it abandons its old hypothesis.”. At the time I didn’t know there was a controversy about it. After raising one set of caterpillars in the early summer, we let nature take its course; there have been monarch butterflies in the garden constantly. We tagged 200. I bought 50 plants. The article is titled Is Tropical Milkweed Killing Monarch Butterflies? Hi Robin, there are problems with monarchs that are UNIQUE to areas like central/south Florida and southern California. Tropical milkweed is not a monarch killer. But if you want to be 100% sure your tropical milkweed isn’t negatively affecting them, you can take the same cut-back precautions in your northern garden. THIS IS NOT THE CASE – WRONG. I’m wondering if some caterpillars have started pupating within milkweed seedpods in order to be protected from predators. The whole tone & the writers bad attitude for people who may have a different view point, is a turn off. I definitely have > 95% success but then, I collect the eggs every evening. or was it because they were unfamiliar with this non-native milkweed and didn’t know to search for caterpillars? I ordered some other milkweed seeds to give them a go, but I’ve been told not to expect much success. This is a list of some of the potential milkweeds you can try in your region…I’m sure some will be more successful than others. We leverage cloud and hybrid datacenters, giving you the speed and security of nearby VPN services, and the ability to leverage services provided in a remote location. Eggs were laid on both types of plants. If they are hanging upside down, well obviously they’re well on their way, or if there are silks around them and they’re beginning to attach themselves in place, well duh, I get it. The cats seem plump and healthy. Many thanks to you for this site and all those who share their knowledge and enthusiasm.:). Hi Susan, try staggering your cuttings (cut back half now, the other half a few weeks later). I recommend raising from egg, using cuttings (which is recommended in my book), and thoroughly rinsing all milkweed before serving. These autumn migrating Monarchs now carrying dormant spores can infect other plants (as quoted below) during their travels and will lay infected eggs when arriving at your house the following year. I live a little over a mile inland from the Monarch Sanctuary at Natural Bridges State Park that is by the beach. Texas Butterfly Ranch reported that a tropical milkweed research patch left overwinter in San Antonio had an occurrence of 15% OE…however, other monitoring sites observed by the Monarch Larva Monitoring Project had 47%! Then it’s up to the gardener to decide if a milkweed or nectar plant will work for their particular situation. 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